Comments on: Third Party Hard Drive for HP Proliant DL185 G5 https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/ Scott Alan Miller :: A Life Online Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:14:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Rudy https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-25513 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:14:53 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-25513 It seems like you truly fully understand plenty regarding this issue and it all demonstrates thru this excellent blog post, labeled “Sheep Guarding Llama
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By: Phil Robins https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-24513 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:05:30 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-24513 We have a new supplier for the drive trays – please get in touch if you need them for the disk drives.

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By: B-C https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-24200 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:44:26 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-24200 Fans were stuck at Full Speed…

Fix was found here:
http://www.groovytunes.nl/joep/?p=162

http://tinyurl.com/B-C-HPURL
Use the USB Key Version to update – apparently can’t format via Win7 but worked fine from 2003 server / xp.

basically had to update the BMC Firmware up to 3.11 to resolve fan issue after Bios Update…

All set now and I think I can hear again!

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By: B-C https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-24198 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:47:46 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-24198 Okay… Server Back in the rack and running….

http://aqstech.com/aqslive/?p=1565

Quoted Rate was $99 Plus Shipping…

I chose to pull the board and send it alone full CPU / RAM and everything still onboard, just incase they had power to fire it up.

They didn’t have the power to fire it up but they fixed it and its now running…

installed a removable bios on the board… quickly from California to NY and back… ~ 2 weeks and ground shipping is all I used…

Shipping ~$25 + $15 Charge for Fedex Pickup in western NY…

Well worth the stress relief…

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23902 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:45:15 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23902 I just realized that that recovery place is LOCAL TO OUR OFFICES!!!! I’m totally checking with them to see what they can do.

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23901 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:44:28 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23901 If it makes you feel any better, I did it too 🙁 Let me know if you try that recovery place, their website does not lead to confidence for me. I’m more likely to just buy a replacement motherboard.

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By: B-C https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23898 Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:00:29 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23898 Travis… Truax…

Wish I had read your post earlier… I know have an expensive metal brick… with 16tb…

There are a few options for repairs…
http://www.aqstech.com/hpbios20.htm
$99 for the repair…
Shipping is the only headache…

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By: Travis Truax https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23572 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:44:15 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23572 Other potential pitfalls you may find using third-party drive trays and disks:

1.) Those after-market drive trays can be of very questionable quality. Some of ours did not have all the retainer pins holding the front of the tray to the back securely “fastened” (melted) – meaning if you try to pull the handle to remove the drive from the cage, the handle & the rest of the face will break off. As long as you catch it up front, you can use a soldering iron to melt the pins. Please just remember to clean the iron’s tip afterward!

Your mileage may vary depending on the drive itself. We have tried WD Caviar Black drives and Hitachi, and no matter what we do – some of the bays have flickering amber or blue LEDs. The array says the drives are fine, but we get all this phantom LED activity.

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By: Travis Truax https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23567 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:08:44 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23567 WARNING! If you have an old G5 model, or acquire one on the cheap from Ebay, be extremely careful with the BIOS updates on these boxes. HP’s update utility will happily flash over a very old BIOS with the latest version, and DESTROY THE MOTHERBOARD! No kidding – I just did it. (Along with several others on HP’s forums.) There are several BIOS updates for these boxes that update the Boot Block, and if you skip those updates – the ROMPAQ will NOT warn you. BTW, the BIOS is not removable, and there are no connectors for offline restoration, and these are cheap machines without backup ROM options – so the server will be permanently junk if you’re not careful. You will need to perform EVERY SINGLE BIOS update sequentially along with the BMC firmware as referenced in the BIOS revision notes to make sure you don’t end up with an expensive metal brick!

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23540 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:04:57 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23540 In reply to Travis Truax.

If you are buying new you’ll likely want to not get the old G5 but move to the DL180 G6 which has the P410 instead of the P400 anyway. If only the DL185 G7 was to be produced – now that would be one amazing machine.

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By: Travis Truax https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23538 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:06:40 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23538 Even though the included P400 or E200 Smart Array will work ok, you may wish to replace it with a newer model, such as the P410, which supports SATA2 speeds. The drives are out-pacing the controllers though (at least HP’s) – so you may have to settle for a SATA2 controller even if you have SATA3 6Gb capable drives.

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23442 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:02:16 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23442 The drives are hot swap in their trays so they go in and out so there is no way to use screws. That’s just hot hot swap trays work.

However, the trays are not designed to constantly go in and out. Nor is the chassis. It’s meant for occasional swaps, not regular use. I would not recommend using internal hot swap bays for that type of drive rotation. Look at a dedicated external drive bay that is designed specifically for that purpose and keep the internal drive bays for perm drives.

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By: TheGreen https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23439 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:41:14 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23439 I wonder if the drives can easily be plugged in and out (without using a screw)?

I’d like to install 12 drives and be able to rotate the drives pretty much like tapes – do you think that would be possible?

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By: Joe Allen https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23406 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:25:24 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23406 I am also looking for a work around for the issue of NON HP Hard Drives, in HP Prolian Servers causing the fans to switch into HIGH due to an intentional FAULTY reading on the hard drive temperature by not readin an HP hard drive.

I can appreciate the ‘supposed’ reliability gained by the quality of the HP Hard Drives however I can NOT justify the price being nearly 3 times as much to get it.

Please remember when you are building RAID solutions, the idea is to ALLOW for failure with an easy remedy.

Anyone got a fix, workaround, patch for dealing with HP Management and Hard Drive monitoring, high fan speed?

Thanks!

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23084 Thu, 27 May 2010 22:36:57 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23084 Sadly, the DL185 has left the market and we are now stuck with the DL180 G6. Fortunately, the DL180 G6 still uses these drive trays, I am told. The Intel-based box is not quite as cost effective for this purpose but is nearly so. Fingers are crossed that a DL185 G7 is in the works. We were told that the G6 would be available in February but obviously that did not happen. A 12-core G7 unit would be amazing though.

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By: Joe Rojas https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23083 Thu, 27 May 2010 20:26:05 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23083 I found this page through Spiceworks. Thanks for the information.

So what happens to SAM-SD when the DL185 G5 is no longer available? 🙂
Will there be specs for a SAM-SD 2?

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23046 Thu, 06 May 2010 13:38:23 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23046 The DL385 of any generation is completely different than the DL185. They use a different chassis with 2.5″ SFF drives rather than the LFF drives so that drive carriers will not work.

SSD with work fine with these brackets. SSD appears as a SAS or SATA drive so no concerns with visibility to the controller. There is no special SSD controller.

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By: Jaroslav K. https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-23045 Thu, 06 May 2010 07:28:46 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-23045 Hello, Mr. Scott,
we plan to buy HP DL385 G6 server. Is the bracket with part number 373211-001 good for SAS/SATA drives for this server?

Does anybody try to put cheap SSD disks to these brackets? Are they visible for controller?

Thank you for information.

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22697 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:35:04 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22697 Glad that it helped!

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By: Vincent https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22696 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:18:16 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22696 Thanks for this information. I am looking at this server and the HR drive choices were very expensive. This has saved about $2K.

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By: Anonymous https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22586 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:02:53 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22586 They used to only keep twenty or thirty in stock. Thanks to our efforts here and those on SpiceWorks, the “in stock” numbers are now in the hundreds! Thanks everyone for making this item popular so that we can all safely get it for our massive storage arrays.

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By: Adam https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22569 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:44:37 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22569 I just got a DL360 G6 and used Seagate 2.5 drives. The drives work fantastic but the server is loud. The server reports the hard drivs are “overheating” while the drives are freezing to the touch. Because of this the server kicks up the fans. Can’t get any support from HP. Does anyone know a utility that can adjust the fan speed or to ignore the Hard drive temp?

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By: Phil https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22565 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:08:19 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22565 THANKS A BUNCH! I just took delivery of a DL185 and it shipped with a bunch of blanks. WTF? I escalated through several levels of support claiming there is no such part. Sure, I’m going to pay HP $100 apiece for 8 160gb disks, when 2TB Hitachi disks run about $130. You, my friend, ROCK. Thanks for this post. This will be good ammunition when I call them and threaten to send this server back. And I’m serious. Every Supermicro server we’ve bought came with a full array of empty sleds, and every one of them are still operating to this day. I have no qualms of switching.

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22542 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:29:10 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22542 In reply to Pancho.

Smart Array are considered the best RAID controllers that money can buy. There is no limitation for third party drives, you can use any drive that you want. No reason for the remotest concern there. There is no benefit to using HP-branded drives from a controller perspective. You can mix and match all you want.

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By: Pancho https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22538 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:48:59 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22538 Hi,

are you saying you had no trouble with the P400 controller and 1.5TB barracuda drives? Are you using array configuration utility for managing all this?

I’m interested to put this controller in my workstation but have never seen how the smart arrays handle 3rd party hard drives…

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22529 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:48:55 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22529 I am currently using 1.5TB Barracudas but am not sure if they are the 7200.99 model or not. I am sure that the 7200.99 will be fine.

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By: David https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22528 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:39:39 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22528 Hi,

What Seagate hard drive model are you using for your configuration? Will it support the seagate 1.5 tb barracuda 7200.99 hard drives?

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By: Scott Alan Miller https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22407 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:21:14 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22407 P400/512 is highly recommended when connecting all fourteen drives. You really need the extra power when you have that many spindles to control. And really, the extra cost is minimal when you split it up between all of those drives.

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By: Cory https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22406 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:16:43 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22406 Which RAID controller are you using with the 14 drives array?

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By: john https://sheepguardingllama.com/2009/05/third-party-hard-drive-for-hp-proliant-dl185-g5/comment-page-1/#comment-22124 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:08:58 +0000 http://www.sheepguardingllama.com/?p=4088#comment-22124 ha! just got one of these and didnt realize it shipped with blanks. thanks for the part# !!!

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